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𝐆𝐀𝐙𝐀 𝐈𝐒 𝐍𝐎𝐓 𝐀 𝐆𝐄𝐍𝐎𝐂𝐈𝐃𝐄

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M.A. Rothman

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𝐆𝐀𝐙𝐀 𝐈𝐒 𝐍𝐎𝐓 𝐀 𝐆𝐄𝐍𝐎𝐂𝐈𝐃𝐄 — 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐍𝐔𝐌𝐁𝐄𝐑𝐒 𝐓𝐇𝐄 𝐏𝐑𝐎𝐓𝐄𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐑𝐒 𝐐𝐔𝐎𝐓𝐄 𝐏𝐑𝐎𝐕𝐄 𝐈𝐓, 𝐈𝐅 𝐓𝐇𝐄𝐘 𝐄𝐕𝐄𝐑 𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐏𝐏𝐄𝐃 𝐂𝐇𝐀𝐍𝐓𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐋𝐎𝐍𝐆 𝐄𝐍𝐎𝐔𝐆𝐇 𝐓𝐎 𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐃 𝐓𝐇𝐄𝐌
Two clarifying principles, before the data:
𝐈𝐟 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐚 𝐰𝐚𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐢𝐭, 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐚 𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐝𝐞. H-m-s, with the documented support of the majority of Gazan adults (Washington Institute for Near East Policy poll, August 2023; multiple post-October 7 surveys), attacked Israel on October 7 and lost. That is a war they chose. That is not a genocide.
𝐈𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐯𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐦 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐚𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐰𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐨, 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐚 𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐝𝐞. H-m-s can end the war today. Lay down your weapons. Release the hostages. The sh∗∗ting stops. They will not, because they want to keep attacking Israel. That is also not a genocide.
Now look at the chart. 𝐏𝐨𝐩𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐰𝐭𝐡, 𝟏𝟗𝟓𝟎 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐨𝐝𝐚𝐲 (World of Statistics):
𝐆𝐚𝐳𝐚 𝐒𝐭𝐫𝐢𝐩: +𝟏,𝟎𝟑𝟒%.
𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥: +𝟔𝟎𝟗%.
Gaza’s population grew faster than every Arab Gulf state except Qatar and the UAE. 𝐈𝐭 𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐰 𝐚𝐭 𝐧𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐥𝐲 𝐝𝐨𝐮𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐢𝐭𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐟. That is not what genocide produces. Genocide is what reduces the Armenian population in eastern Turkey to single-digit percentages of its prewar count. Genocide is what reduces the Tutsi population in Rwanda by 70% in 100 days. Genocide is not a 1,034% expansion under the alleged perpetrator’s presence next door.
Now the casualty figures. Anyone repeating the “70,000 𝘎𝘢𝘻𝘢𝘯 𝘤𝘪𝘷𝘪𝘭𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘬!𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘥” number is repeating the 𝐆𝐚𝐳𝐚 𝐇𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐭𝐡 𝐌𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐲 number. The Gaza Health Ministry is run by H-m-s. They do not differentiate between civilian and combatant. They do not differentiate between war d∗aths and natural causes. They are the only source for that number, and they have been caught fabricating death tolls in every prior conflict.
Even if you accept the H-m-s number at face value: 70,000 d∗aths divided by the IDF’s reported tonnage of munitions delivered yields a ratio that is 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐢𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐨𝐜𝐢𝐝𝐞. If Israel actually wanted Gaza emptied, no buildings would be standing and no Gazans would be breathing. That has not happened.
𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐚 𝐰𝐚𝐫. 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐨𝐧𝐞. 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐝𝐞𝐬𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐛𝐞.

𝘐𝘮𝘢𝘨𝘦 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 @𝘏𝘪𝘭𝘻𝘍𝘶𝘭𝘥







Tony Galeana
 
💢I love when people say Israel is committing genocide but don’t know what the actual word means. Or the reality of what is actually happening because they watch propaganda TikTok shorts.
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    • Leonardo Spasov
     
    Looks like deportation to me
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    • Bob Pêcheur
     
    Experts who have looked into this are clear, it is genocide. Not sure what your source is, but the data does not support one or the other. It is an irrelevant statistic.
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    • Tom Nordy Smith
     
    I've no idea whether what Israel has performed is technically a genocide or not. But what i do know is, from the pictures and reporting i have seen, what they have done to Palestine is pure evil (just as Oct 7th was). So spare me your protests.
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    • Krzysztof Gąsiorowski
     
    Ok, now do last 3 years 🙂
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    • Dennis Wallace
     
    I know that this allows for immigration, but...Is it really cold in Qatar, or do they simply have nothing better to do?..
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    • Michael Öo
     
    I'd like us to do a similar stat and know the population of Jews between 1939 - 1945 in Europe.
    Did the population increase in 1942 in camps or did it reduce?
    Then finally after the war, what was the total number of Jews in Europe.
    I mean, why don't we also check if there was a genocide then too?
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    • Terry May
     
    So we have identified the problem
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    • Ryan Edgar
     
    Now do the population from 1948 to 1950 and explain why it increased 🤔
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    • Hariz Akmal
     
    the keyword here is the Gaza Strip, not the entire plstn population,when the main reason of the growth is coming from the relocatiion and displacement of the plstnian being put to gaza strip. This point has been debunked numerous time.
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    • James Bell
     
    Israel was never even a country, the country was always named Palestine and made up of the tribes of Israel, the descendants of the man named Israel, the modern political state of Israel is made up of mainly descendants of European Jews, not Middle Easterners from the biblical countries of Persia Babylon and Palestine etc
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    • Siʀ BOrj
     
    What's your actual sample numbers? Provide the raw data, and not just the "percentage"
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    • Marco van Velsen
     
    Well you made it a parking lot now which was always the objective, and killed 20.000 children in the process, so let's see what happens with all the displaced palestinians now and how the Riviera project will benefit them....
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    • Patrice Leroux
     
    Let the press in and find out.
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    • Tofan AD
     
    why is there a shitraeli flag in middle east xD
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    • Philip Li
     
    Your definition of war is different from mine. Isarel got airplane, tank and advance weaponry and what weapon did Hamas have?
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    • Tyler Bahoura
     
    I’d like to see the Christian population decrease in these places (1950-now)
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    • Matt Grösch
     
    They’re population increased during the war
    
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    • Tony Krynicky
     
    Most of the protesters probably can't read, and if they can, they can't comprehend what they're reading.
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    • Arun Antony
     
    1. Population growth over 75 years does not tell you what is happening right now. Rwanda's Tutsi population had been growing for decades before 1994. The Armenian population grew under Ottoman rule before 1915. Long-term growth preceding an acute event is not evidence against that event
    2. Genocide doesn't require total extermination. The legal definition under the 1948 UN Genocide Convention includes acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part a group. "In part" is explicit in international law.
    3. About Hamas ending the war
    Israeli officials including cabinet ministers have explicitly discussed permanent displacement of Gazans and resettlement of Gaza - statements that complicate the "Israel just wants Hamas gone" framing.
    Civilian populations don't get to simply "end" a war by pressuring their armed rulers, especially under a blockade with no free press or political opposition.
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    "IF ISRAEL WANTED GENOCIDE, NO BUILDINGS WOULD BE STANDING" Factually challenged
    Satellite analysis by multiple independent organizations (UNOSAT, Corey Scher/Jamon Van Den Hoek) has found that 50–70% of structures in northern Gaza were damaged or destroyed as of early 2024 — among the highest urban destruction rates ever recorded.
    This argument sets an impossible standard: only 100% extermination counts. That's not how genocide law or history works.
    This post uses real statistics to build a rhetorically forceful but logically flawed argument. It correctly identifies some weaknesses in pro-Palestinian rhetoric but then overcorrects into its own selective reading — dismissing international law's actual definitions, misrepresenting casualty data credibility, and making a historical claim about Israel that is straightforwardly false.
    The genocide question is genuinely legally contested. But "1,034% population growth since 1950" doesn't settle it and presenting it as if it does is misleading.
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    • Andrea Corleto
     
    Genocide is not how much you kill, is how you kill
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    • Neil Campbell
     
    Those numbers certainly tell a story. It’s not the story you’re telling, but the story they tell is powerful and saddening.
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    • Rich McFarling
     
    It is the only genocide where the population goes up and not down.
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    • Mordecai Zibkoff
     
    The fact that they're growing faster than Israel is is a real problem
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    • Terry Linn
     
    If you take, hold, and kill hostages … you’re not the good guys.
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    • Braeden Trebell
     
    International Committee of the Red Cross
    Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 9 December 1948
    Article 2
    In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to
    destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
    (a) Killing members of the group;
    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical
    destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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    • RB
     
    In other news, prison population keeps rising because people are so happy to move there.
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    • Andrew Rauschenberg
     
    This is another definitive chart showing that Gaza is not a genocide. The ratio of combatant to civilian deaths his orders of magnitude away from a genocide:
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    • Raphael Ald
     
    Yeah because Palestinian population was forced to move there
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    • Sam Michael 'Billy' Sickels
     
    When was the last census in Gaza?
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    • Taner Erdem
     
    So we can use the same words for Israel you mean
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    • Scoops VonCoops
     
    That will be all the genocide.
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    • Scott Griffin
     
    Probably the people that had to run for their lives from the West Bank
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    • Parwez Diloo
     
    This post is misleading! ⚠️
    These numbers are showing by how much the number of people in the area increased (in whatever year this was published) compared to 1950.
    Using a very relevant example - if over time, people from other areas of Palestine move to Gaza for whatever reason (displaced, personal, etc), it will all be included in the “Population increase” compared to 1950.
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    • Gerald Johnson
     
    There was a population growth in the concentration camps too...
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    • Evans Korir
     
    99 percent Islam countries they marry up to 4 wives what do you expect
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    • Sean Dixon
     
    Source - Netanyahu 🤣
    Free Press are blocked from Gaza remember that
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    • Grant Able
     
    They breed like insects.
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    • Manuel Epa
     
    Have you ever heard of overcrowded population in prison? What do you think it happened when you forced displace millions of people in the xx Century and place them in a little strip. Gaza was a huge displacement camp.
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    • Ehab Ammari
     
    Motherfucker, Gaza population increased after 1950 because of your genosidal state that drove hundreds of thousands of people to be displaced from all over Palestine into Gaza, the same spike in Jordan for the same reason,
    If anything those numbers are an evidence of your disgusting state.
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    세진님, 공유해주신 자료는 가자 지구의 상황을 제노사이드(집단학살)로 볼 수 있는지에 대한 격렬한 논쟁을 담고 있네요. 제출된 문서의 주요 내용과 이에 대한 비판적 시각을 정리하여 요약해 드립니다.

    주요 주장: <가자는 제노사이드가 아니다>

    해당 글의 저자는 통계와 전쟁의 원칙을 근거로 제노사이드 주장을 반박하고 있습니다.

    • 인구 통계적 근거: 1950년부터 현재까지 가자 지구의 인구는 <1,034%> 증가했으며, 이는 이스라엘의 성장률(<609%>)보다 약 두 배 높다. 저자는 제노사이드가 보통 인구의 급격한 감소를 초래한다는 점을 들어 이를 반박한다.

    • 전쟁의 성격: 하마스가 시작한 전쟁에서 패배하는 것은 제노사이드가 아니며, 하마스가 무기를 내려놓고 인질을 석방하면 즉시 전쟁을 끝낼 수 있는 상황이다.

    • 사망자 수의 신뢰성: 현재 인용되는 사망자 수 데이터는 하마스가 운영하는 가자 보건부의 자료이며, 이들은 민간인과 전투원을 구분하지 않는다.

    • 군사적 의도: 이스라엘이 정말 가자를 비우려 했다면 현재 남아있는 건물이나 생존자는 없었을 것이라고 주장한다.

    반론 및 비판적 시각

    댓글 창에서는 저자의 논리가 선택적이며 본질을 흐린다는 지적이 제기되었습니다.

    • 인구 증가의 원인: 가자 지구의 인구 증가는 자연적인 번식뿐만 아니라, 다른 지역에서 쫓겨난 팔레스타인인들이 가자로 강제 이주 및 밀집된 결과(난민 캠프화)라는 분석이 있다.

    • 법적 정의의 오해: 제노사이드는 전체의 멸절뿐만 아니라, 집단의 <일부>를 파괴할 의도로 저지르는 행위를 포함한다(1948년 UN 제노사이드 협약 제2조). 따라서 장기적인 인구 증가율이 현재의 특정 행위를 정당화할 수는 없다는 지적이다.

    • 파괴의 규모: 가자 북부 건물의 <50~70%>가 손상되거나 파괴되었다는 위성 분석 결과는 "이스라엘이 마음만 먹었다면 더 파괴했을 것"이라는 주장을 반박하는 실질적인 데이터로 제시된다.

    평론

    이 문서는 데이터의 <선택적 활용>이 어떻게 강력한 수사적 도구가 될 수 있는지 보여주는 사례이다. 저자는 75년간의 장기 인구 추이를 가져와 현재 발생 중인 인도주의적 위기의 성격을 규정하려 시도한다. 하지만 비판자들이 지적하듯, 과거의 인구 성장이 현재의 군사 작전 중에 발생하는 특정 행위의 법적 면죄부가 될 수는 없다.

    결국 이 논쟁은 제노사이드를 <인구수 변동>이라는 결과론적 수치로 볼 것인가, 아니면 <집단을 파괴하려는 의도와 행위>라는 법적 절차로 볼 것인가의 충돌로 요약된다. 양측의 주장이 평행선을 달리는 가운데, 객관적인 검증을 위해 외부 언론의 자유로운 취재가 필요하다는 목소리도 힘을 얻고 있다.

    추가로 궁금하신 세부 지표나 특정 관점이 있으신가요?


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